#1 2018-10-01 10:26

narayan
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Reforms in the Filter dialog

Sometimes I need to change the names of folders.
Usually all these folders are subfolders of the same higher-level folder.
So the most intuitive thing for me is to select them all and drag-n-drop them into Renamer.

But Renamer does not allow me this intuitive step.

The only way to do is to change the Filter settings, and save it.
Then after the file name conversion, against revert the Filter settings to original, and save it once again.

This is too tedious.

1. Allow users to rename folder names in a flat list (without renaming their subfolders or files)

If the dropped list has at least one folder, change the workflow: Open a dialog to check two things-
Q1. Do I want to change the folder names or the file names?
Q2. Do I want to check their subfolders recursively? (if yes, Renamer will apply the same choices as Q1 to all the other subfolders)

Once I put a tick in the desired checkboxes, the next step should load those folders/files and allow me to set the rules.


This setting should not be saved.

2. Automatically avoid the naming conflict when renaming subfolders also.

IMHO the folder renaming workflow in the Filter dialog is unnecessarily complex.
The folders should be automatically sorted in descending order first, before applying the new names.
The user need not be warned at all.

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#2 2018-10-02 07:08

narayan
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

Update:

I just discovered that saving the filter has no effect: When I launch Renamer again, the original setting is seen again.

Renamer does not save the changed settings as a named filter that can be retrieved later.
There is an option to save the new settings as default, which I do not want.

I have raised a separate issue for this.

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#3 2018-10-08 16:26

den4b
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

It is planned to show some form of a filter settings dialog when user attempts to add folders.

It is important to note that filter settings may also affect the selection of files, due to filtering by include and exclude masks. If such settings are also included in the new dialog, it is going to be essentially the same as the current filter settings dialog, so why not show it as is?

Suggestions for how this new dialog might look like are very welcomed.

Automatically avoid the naming conflict when renaming subfolders also.

Just sorting the table in descending order won't solve the problem, because user can always adjust the order.

There are few other ideas brewing at the moment, which may solve this problem in a more elegant way. For example: adjust the order of renaming without changing the order in the table.

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#4 2018-10-09 12:53

narayan
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

That's what I meant, actually: Let Renamer handle the logical sequence.

Last edited by narayan (2018-10-09 12:53)

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#5 2018-10-11 06:08

narayan
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

Suggestions for how this new dialog might look like are very welcomed.

A suggested scenario:

If the selection contains folder(s), then a dialog appears:

The selection contains folder(s).
Do you want to-
O Rename the files in the folder
      []  Rename files in subfolders also
O Rename the folder itself


(Key: The "O" denotes a radio button, and [] denotes a check box.)

Renamer does not warn about the importance of sequence of renaming folders: It handles this internally.

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#6 2018-10-12 10:01

den4b
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

The current filtering options allow users to add both the folders and the contained files simultaneously.

While the proposed dialog makes it mandatory to select either folder or files, but not both.

Perhaps it would make sense to show all existing filtering options:

renamer-filters-adding-folders.png

A bit of rephrasing could also help.

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#7 2018-10-12 10:12

den4b
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

An interesting example of a similar dialog in Ant Renamer:

Ant_Renamer_Drag_Drop_Options.png

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#8 2018-10-12 12:27

narayan
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Re: Reforms in the Filter dialog

While the proposed dialog makes it mandatory to select either folder or files, but not both.

There should be no such limit.

If the user has dropped files and folders, his intent for the files is clear.
The dialog should ask the user what to do with the folders (and their subfolders).

Perhaps it would make sense to show all existing filtering options

yes.

Last edited by narayan (2018-10-12 12:28)

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