New Swap or Rearrange rule

Stefan · 2009-10-14 22:04

den4b wrote:

"[x] Force sequence" is exactly like it was before, except different wording of it. The radio button seems to be a much better option.
"Exact pattern of delimiters" might sound more strict, but isn't that implied by a word "pattern" ? There is also a shortage of space to insert the word "exact", I tried it! (also consider space for translations)

Yes, Denis.
Not to push you, but to make myself clear:

* i like that you lineup the options in the one row, but
* Whit "Exact order of delimiters" i could guess what it does.
The term "Pattern of delimiters" makes no sense to me here, at least i didn't understand it (my translator say pattern could be translated to 'constitution' or like this, but i understand 'pattern' not that way).

That's why:
* "Force sequence" was my short word for "Exact pattern of delimiters" ... to save space in the UI.
* and since "Force sequence" is not self-clear - i made an [x]-check box, related to ( ) Delimiter, to make the relation ship.

Anyway, an another try to help:
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Force Delimiters __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Any Delimiters __ (o)Exact Delimiters __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Delimiters exactly __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Delimiters in order __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Pattern of delimiters __ ( )Positions <---- length test

krtek · 2009-10-15 16:42

I've got the same feeling Stefan. I know what Pattern of delimiters means only because I saw it growing up. I would have to look into the manual if I weren't. But...

Stefan wrote:

Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Force Delimiters __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Any Delimiters __ (o)Exact Delimiters __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Delimiters exactly __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Delimiters in order __ ( )Positions
Split using: ( )Delimiters __ (o)Pattern of delimiters __ ( )Positions

From these five only Denis's ( )Delimiters __ (o)Pattern of delimiters __ ( )Positions makes sense. (after second thought: maybe Delimiters in order is also not bad...)
The Any Delimiters although completely intact shows the possibility to make the expression Pattern of delimiters clear by opposition to the first option. But I simply can't find short and simple words for that.

Last edited by krtek (2009-10-15 16:44)

narayan · 2009-10-15 17:19

How about "in sequence" or "repeat sequence"?

Since this is a suboption of the first radio button, it should be shown in the second line.

krtek · 2009-10-15 21:12

The main idea of the new layout was to make it equal to the rest of options (so not a suboption).
"repeat sequence" gives no/wrong info about what the option is for.
"in sequence" is like "in order" - is not bad, but not good either.

From my point of view Denis's version is still the best one. It is a pattern...

den4b · 2009-10-15 21:26

My final verdict for this option is: "Exact pattern of delimiters", as a radio button. Implemented.

P.S. Interesting to see how small things like this can attract a lot of interest and ideas!

Stefan · 2009-10-15 21:49

den4b wrote:

P.S. Interesting to see how small things like this can attract a lot of interest and ideas!

Glad you are not cross whit us, while we drives you nuts

narayan · 2009-10-16 02:48

Perfection is the name of the game!

Stefan - A final version of your examples, please!

fjord · 2009-11-01 15:35

I'm catching up on over a year's worth of fantastic improvements in ReNamer, and reading through this thread and the Wiki about Rearrange. I want to sort photos into folders by date, and Advanced Example 3 deals with this. But I'm a bit mystified by the need to use the first character "D" as a delimiter, since the filename is not getting rearranged at all.

Task: Sort digital photos in different folders based on the Date...
From:     To:
DSC_0001.jpg     D:\photos\trip\2009_10_21\DSC_0001.jpg
DSC_0002.jpg     D:\photos\trip\2009_10_21\DSC_0002.jpg
DSC_0125.jpg     D:\photos\trip\2009_10_25\DSC_0125.jpg
Settings:
Delimiter: "D" (without the quotes)
New pattern: D:\photos\trip\:EXIF_Date:\D$2

Can this be done without any delimiter, and just using $0 token for the filename in the result. That would seem to be a simpler example, if it works according to my intuition. As in:

Delimiter: "" (no delimiters)
New pattern: D:\photos\trip\:EXIF_Date:\$0

I haven't tried it yet...so I may be misunderstanding something.

narayan · 2009-11-01 16:55

You are right: Some of those examples were written when there was no $0 token. So the name had to be re-created through indirect manipulation.

now the $0 will serve the purpose.

Thanks for the feedback.

narayan · 2009-11-21 02:56

Hi all,

I have updated the wiki with the latest changes. Only the "Exact pattern of delimiters" option is yet to be explained.

Either update that directly or post your material (logic of the algorithm with examples) here.

Thanks!

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