den4b Forum

markmorgan

Member

Registered: 2008-11-22

Posts: 4

Samsung phone pictures missing date

Renamer does not find an EXIF date in Samsung G600 camera phone pictures so the :EXIF_Date: variable cannot be used in rename operations.

Windows XP shows 'date picture taken' as blank too.  But there is a date stored in the file which I believe is the modify date.

Exiftool.exe displays the following for the Samsung photo

ExifTool Version Number         : 7.53
File Name                       : Photo-0001.jpg
File Size                       : 498 kB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2008:06:24 17:39:30+01:00
File Type                       : JPEG
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Make                            : SAMSUNG
Camera Model Name               : SGH-G600
Orientation                     : Horizontal (normal)
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
F Number                        : 2.8
Exposure Mode                   : Auto
White Balance                   : Auto
Scene Capture Type              : Standard
Flash                           : No Flash
Exposure Time                   : 1/16
Shutter Speed Value             : 1
Aperture Value                  : 2.6
Focal Length                    : 5.8 mm
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Digital Zoom Ratio              : 0
Modify Date                     : 2008-06-24 17:39:00
Exif Version                    : 0210
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Components Configuration        : YCbCr
Color Space                     : sRGB
Exif Image Width                : 2560
Exif Image Height               : 1920
Interoperability Index          : Unknown ([None])
Interoperability Version        : 0100
Image Width                     : 2560
Image Height                    : 1920
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
Aperture                        : 2.8
Image Size                      : 2560x1920
Shutter Speed                   : 1/16
Focal Length                    : 5.8 mm

Whereas from my Minolta camera I get

ExifTool Version Number         : 7.53
File Name                       : PICT0001.JPG
File Size                       : 1264 kB
File Modification Date/Time     : 2007:12:16 14:41:58+00:00
File Type                       : JPEG
MIME Type                       : image/jpeg
Exif Byte Order                 : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
Image Description               : DCF 1.0
Make                            : Minolta Co., Ltd.
Camera Model Name               : DiMAGE S304
Orientation                     : Horizontal (normal)
X Resolution                    : 72
Y Resolution                    : 72
Resolution Unit                 : inches
Software                        : D1v054e
Modify Date                     : 2007:12:16 14:41:54
Y Cb Cr Positioning             : Centered
Exposure Program                : Program AE
ISO                             : 100
Exif Version                    : 0210
Date/Time Original              : 2007:12:16 14:41:54
Create Date                     : 2007:12:16 14:41:54
Components Configuration        : YCbCr
Shutter Speed Value             : 1/512
Aperture Value                  : 8.0
Exposure Compensation           : 0
Max Aperture Value              : 3.6
Metering Mode                   : Multi-segment
Light Source                    : Unknown
Flash                           : No Flash
Focal Length                    : 10.1 mm
Maker Note Version              : MLT0
Exposure Mode                   : Program
Flash Mode                      : Unknown (6)
White Balance                   : Auto
Minolta Image Size              : Full
Minolta Quality                 : Fine
Drive Mode                      : Single
Exposure Time                   : 1/512
F Number                        : 8.0
Macro Mode                      : Off
Digital Zoom                    : Off
Bracket Step                    : 2/3 EV
Interval Length                 : 0
Interval Number                 : 2
Focus Distance                  : inf
Flash Fired                     : No
Minolta Date                    : 2007:12:16
Minolta Time                    : 14:41:54
Max Aperture                    : 3.7
File Number Memory              : On
Last File Number                : 6422
Color Balance Red               : 2.03125
Color Balance Green             : 1
Color Balance Blue              : 1.2421875
Saturation                      : Normal
Contrast                        : Normal
Sharpness                       : Normal
Subject Program                 : None
Flash Exposure Compensation     : 0
ISO Setting                     : Auto
Minolta Model ID                : DiMAGE S304
Interval Mode                   : Still Image
Folder Name                     : Data Form
Color Mode                      : Black & White
Color Filter                    : 7997
BW Filter                       : 8
Compressed Image Size           : 1249311
Preview Image                   : (Binary data 26193 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Flashpix Version                : 0100
Color Space                     : sRGB
Exif Image Width                : 2048
Exif Image Height               : 1536
Interoperability Index          : R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
Interoperability Version        : 0100
Compression                     : JPEG (old-style)
Thumbnail Offset                : 14256
Thumbnail Length                : 3001
Image Width                     : 2048
Image Height                    : 1536
Encoding Process                : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
Bits Per Sample                 : 8
Color Components                : 3
Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling            : YCbCr4:2:2 (2 1)
Aperture                        : 8.0
Image Size                      : 2048x1536
Shutter Speed                   : 1/512
Thumbnail Image                 : (Binary data 3001 bytes, use -b option to extract)
Focal Length                    : 10.1 mm
Light Value                     : 15.0

The Samsung is only filling in "Modify Date" and the Minolta is filling in "Date/Time Original", "Create Date" and "Modify Date".

Mark.

Stefan

Moderator

From: Germany, EU

Registered: 2007-10-23

Posts: 1,161

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

  Hi Mark, welcome to the community

what do you think ReNamer should do for you?
If the pictures are tagged correctly i am sure ReNamer will get the data.
Did you ask on the Samsung forum why the EXIF date is not set correctly?

If you want Denis to help you you should provide him an sample picture taken with your phone.

Last edited by Stefan (2008-11-22 18:48)

---

Read the  *WIKI* for HELP + MANUAL + Tips&Tricks.
If ReNamer had helped you, please *DONATE* to Denis or buy a PRO license. (Read *Lite vs Pro*)

markmorgan

Member

Registered: 2008-11-22

Posts: 4

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

I was thinking that the ReNamer software should take the dates that are present in order such as

1. Date/Time Original
2. Create Date
3. Modify Date

Then if no dates are present to finally return NULL.

I can certainly provide a sample image.  Is there a way of posting one on the forum or do you want me to upload one to a file host?

Thanks,
Mark.

Stefan

Moderator

From: Germany, EU

Registered: 2007-10-23

Posts: 1,161

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

Please wait if Denis would need such an file and how he wants to get it.

---

Read the  *WIKI* for HELP + MANUAL + Tips&Tricks.
If ReNamer had helped you, please *DONATE* to Denis or buy a PRO license. (Read *Lite vs Pro*)

den4b

Administrator

From: den4b.com

Registered: 2006-04-06

Posts: 3,379

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

As Stefan has already mentioned, your Samsung photos are tagged incorrectly, i.e. the Date/Time Original field is missing.

You can use :File_DateModified: meta tag to insert last modification date into your photos. But be careful, if you edit your photos with any image editors - they will change that date in the file.

---

A story of software development, and how it all evolves into Live vs Pro
Request a Wiki account | Reporting spam and abuse | Why did I get banned?

markmorgan

Member

Registered: 2008-11-22

Posts: 4

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

Do you know of any software that can put the EXIF date into the Samsung photos before I use Renamer on them?

I unfortunately have a number that have had their modified date changed when copying across because I used the Samsung software rather than Windows Explorer.

Mark.

den4b

Administrator

From: den4b.com

Registered: 2006-04-06

Posts: 3,379

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

Exiv2 command line tool might be able to help you.

---

A story of software development, and how it all evolves into Live vs Pro
Request a Wiki account | Reporting spam and abuse | Why did I get banned?

markmorgan

Member

Registered: 2008-11-22

Posts: 4

Re: Samsung phone pictures missing date

Thanks.  Looks like I'm going to have to wrap some Perl Script around it.

By the way the Exiv2 tool does simple renaming and will use either timestamp

"Rename files and/or set file timestamps according to the Exif create timestamp. Uses the value of tag Exif.Photo.DateTimeOriginal or, if not present, Exif.Image.DateTime to determine the timestamp."

Mark.